460 kit.... w/ stroke crank?

Message

AZNEWBIE · #1 Post by **AZNEWBIE** » Wed Aug 03, 2005 7:47 pm

Can you use the 460 kit offered at Blackwidow with a stroked crank? What would the numbers look like? What would the CC be then?

I have to do the crank bearing mod and was thinking about beefing up the Dale at the same time since I have the motor out.

ANd is there a service manual like Hanes or Chilton that breaks down the tear down and reassembly of the motor?

Thanks everyone.

61austin · #2 Post by **61austin** » Wed Aug 03, 2005 7:54 pm

I think that the Falicon crank uses a shorter rod so there may be a problem with certain pistons with it.

The manual is posted on this site.

kdeal · #3 Post by **kdeal** » Wed Aug 03, 2005 8:36 pm

The "450 & 460" kits are designed to be used with the stock type crank and rod assembly. As the Falicon crank uses the same deck height as stock, this will work. Where you will have a problem is when you use a custom made piston for a stroker crank with the stock rod length. (The Falicon uses a rod that is shorter the same length as 1/2 the stroke, thus the same deck height) What actually happens is the piston goes the same height as stock, but pulls the piston lower the entire stroke amount due to the shorter rod.

claas900 · #4 Post by **claas900** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 1:00 am

...Tim can do it with his rod,2mm stroke i think?..it will be a 475cc....Mine has a 1.75 offset stroker piston with Tims 2.2 stroker,makes mine a 478cc.

kdeal · #5 Post by **kdeal** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 1:54 am

Where & when available Timbo will take material off the top of a piston to be able to use it with his strokers. I have a 450 kit (from Timbo or Haydug) & one of Timbo's 2mm stroker cranks. It's sweet.

acarli3 · #6 Post by **acarli3** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 3:44 am

I have a blackwidow 460 kit and a timbo stroker for a 475cc. Works awesome!

Brad Oakley · #7 Post by **Brad Oakley** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 4:37 am

But... Let's remember that you no longer have the WWE piston. When Tim tried to mill it, he accidentally cut into the ring groove while cutting a valve pocket.

You can use the WWE 450 and 460 kits, but you should do it with the Falicon stroker crank. The pistons just won't accept having 2mm cut off their tops.

cannondale27 · #8 Post by **cannondale27** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 11:44 am

I think Tim found a way around that.But I may be wrong.

Brad Oakley · #9 Post by **Brad Oakley** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 12:04 pm

Replaced it with a JE piston!

cannondale27 · #10 Post by **cannondale27** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 12:08 pm

I thought he had Wade get him a special order one.