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Originally posted by thomez
What your republican environmentalist friends tell you will infact kill you. :cool:
Here are some facts on global warming.
[B]You mean opinions.
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Globally, the ten hottest years on record have occured since 1991, and in the past century temps have risen 1* C. In that same period global sea level has risen 20cm - partly from melting of land ice and partly from thermal expansion of the oceans. Ice caps are disappearing from many mountain peaks and summer and autumn artic sea ice has thinned by up to 40% in recent decades.
Key phrase: "on record".
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Global warming has caused an increased frequency of high storm surges in the North Sea coasts.
Last year, Europe had an unprecendented heat wave, France alone bearing around 15,000 excess or premature fatalities as a consequence.
(killing more people than terrorism)
Ah, there were probably too many French people anyway.
Kidding. We also had an extremely hot year in this country in '98.
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Only the forcing from increased greenhouse gas and aerosol concentraions could explain the general upward trend in temperature over the past 150 years. (This isn't a 5 year cycle of change that goes up and down).
I never said anything about 5 year cycles. We're talking about hundreds, even thousands of years.
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If we continue to pollute as we are, Europe could see increased risk of floods by 2080 of up to 30 times present levels. Flood levels now expected once every 100 years could be expected as few as every 3.
As a consequence of continued warming, millions more people around the world may in the future be exposed to the risk of hunger, drought, flooding, and debilitating diseases such as malaria. Poor people in developing countries are most vulnerable.
The sky is falling, the sky is falling! Run Chicken Little, run. It is a well known fact of phsycology that humans are unable to see past their own existance. Every generation finds a reason to think that their children will not survive into old age. If you want to worry about something, worry about Peak Oil. Even if what you say is true, it won't be a problem in 20 or 30 years, when we run out of oil. Then research Thermal Depolymerization. That's what will save us.
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The estimated economic burden of limiting C02 emissions is not expected to have serious impacts upon the economy.
It is a myth that reducing carbon dioxide emissions necessarily makes us poorer. Taking action to tackle climate change can create economic opportunites and higher living standards.
Many say we are not able to reduce our emissions of CO2, but China was somehow able. Between 1990 and 2000 the Chinese economy grew over 60% yet their emissions intensely fell. If China can do it, we darn well can too.
The Bush administration's current strategy relies largely on market-based incentives and voluntary actions (meaning that they are doing nothing).
The Kyoto protocol has been criticized by many as not being strict enough with its standards to make any great change, but was simply setup to get the nations together and organized to tackle such a global problem. Yet we can't even manage to join this endeavor.
Correlation does not prove causation and cause must precede effect. Temperatures are rising, and CO2 is up. Does not mean they are related. Anthropogenic sources of CO2 are about 5%, natural sources emit 95%.
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The U.S. has a responsibility to the world to do what they can to reduce their emissions. We have only 4% of the world's population yet put out over 20% of the world's emissions. I find this unacceptable, especially since we no longer are the manufacturing giant that we used to be.
We are heavily industrialized. Much of the world is not. Shall we use Zaire as a model? Surely they don't have much emissions, but what is the quality of life?
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The biggest producers of CO2 are automobiles and the burning of coal etc to make electricity.
ahem. Volcanoes? Perhaps you mean that automobiles and coal burning are the largest anthropogenic sources?
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The environment is not something to play with, and global warming via increased greenhouse gases (CO2) is an established fact of anyone who understands and respects science. [/B]
This is just another version of "anyone who dissents is not a patriot". You are essentially saying that anyone that disagrees with your opinion is not intelligient. Care to rephrase?
Marc
