Difference between Blaze, Speed & Cannibal

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coolhuh
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Difference between Blaze, Speed & Cannibal

#1 Post by coolhuh »

I am wanting to buy a Cannondale but would like to know the main differences between the Blaze, Speed & Cannibal. Is the Blaze worth the extra money?
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jacobw
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#2 Post by jacobw »

the cannibal is setup for the recreational rider with the lowest rev limit outta the all the models. They 02 had cable clutches with ohlins from and rear shocks better engine cases. The 03 had the magura hyd clutch with the arvins fronts and fox rem rezzy rear.

The speed is the same as the cannibal with the exception of the tag bars and the higher 11,600 rev limit


The blaze is setup for cross country racing with the addition of a smoother map for xc and they had ohlins piggy back shocks front and rear, tag bars, handguards, nerf bars, beadlock wheels, steering damper adn front and rear number plates., gripper seat

The moto had the most agressive atv map had the long travel front suspension 50 wide for mx racing, adj ohlins shocks, adj rear axle, beadlock rear wheels, steering damper, tag bars. nerf bars, gripper seat.

that is the main differances on side note cannibals are cheap and plentiful and easy to find the blazes and motos that are original are very rare and hard to find

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#3 Post by wanablaze »

Speeds actually had ohlins shocks, too, although they were not the piggyback models.

The blaze also has a freer breathing exhaust which helps it make more power than the cannibal and speed with less ignition timing.

In my opinion, a blaze would be worth the money. It is better than spending a lot of money to build a race quad becuase the blaze is relatively inexpensive. If you wanted you could look around and find exhaust, steering dampner, wheels, etc and just add them to a cannibal.

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#4 Post by Mjollnir »

http://forums.cannondaler.com/viewtopic.php?t=4305

Pasted here:

FX400 - First Cannondale ATV - 2001 - Has the MC500 ECU which is identified by a single connector on the ECU and a big red stop button on the handlebars. This ECU is tuned using the mil tool, which enables the owner to change the amount of fuel at low, mid, and high RPM's. This ECU does not let you change maps, however, but it is said to be quicker than a Cannibal. These quads came with either a charcoal grey or a red plastic that had black removable "mud flaps" on the rear of the front fenders. These engines were the same 432cc but had a true 12.5:1 compression ratio. Also had a round stock exhaust, thin ITP wheels, Holeshot tires, and Ohlins shocks. Many of these FX400 machines were converted into 02 Cannibals.

Cannibal - 2002 and 2003 - This quad has the MC1000 computer, characterized by 2 connections on the ECU and a sliding left/right stop mechanism. This ECU is tuned with the Diagnostic and Maintenence kit (commonly called D&M Kit). The Cannibal map is the tamest of all of the quad maps and has a rev limit of 10,800RPM. For 2002 and 2003 the compression ratio was lowered on all Cannondale engines to around 11.8:1 . Cannibals came in different plastic colors including red, and silver with blue trim. Cannibals came with different combos of shocks. Fronts could be either Ohlins (yellow springs with a silver background) or Arvins (yellow springs with a black background). Rear shock could be either an Ohlins (gold piggyback reservoir) or a Fox (black remote reservoir). All Cannibals had the thin ITP rims but some had Holeshot tires while others had Trail Wolf tires. The exhaust on the Cannibal is the infamous square "toaster".

Cannibal LE - 2003 model Limited Edition Cannibal came with USA graphics on silver plastic, Tag bars, Holeshot tires, and Ohlins shocks. Everything else was the same as a normal Cannibal.

Speed - 2002 and 2003 - Outfitted in Silver plastic with yellow accents, the Speed had the same EFI map as the Cannibal but with an 11500 rev limit. This map might provide the highest top end power and speed of any Cannondale quad. All Speeds had Tag bars, Ohlins shocks all around and Holeshot tires. Also came with the "toaster".

Blaze - 2002 and 2003 - This was Cannondale's GNCC race quad out of the box. EFI map was for low/mid grunt with a 11,500 rev limit. Came silver plastic with red accents, Tag bars, Holeshot XC tires on ITP race wheels (rolled edge fronts with 9" beadlock rears, black in color), Ohlins dual rate front shocks with piggyback reservoirs, Ohlins rear shock, Ohlins (Scotts) steering dampner, tether cord, hand guards, wave rotors front and rear, number plates front and back, nerf bars, and an FMF Ti4 full exhaust system.

Moto - 2002 and 2003 - This was Cannondale's MX race quad out of the box. EFI map was for all around power, especially in the mid RPM range, with a rev limit of 11,500. Moto included silver plastic with red accents, Tag bars, Holeshot MX tires on ITP race wheels (rolled edge fronts with 8" beadlock rears, black in color), Ohlins dual rate 19" long travel shocks on Cannondale +2.5" A-arms, Ohlins rear shock, +0 to +4 axle, Ohlins (Scotts) dampner, tether cord, wave rotors front and rear, number plates front and back, nerf bars, and an FMF Ti4 full exhaust system.

Glamis - 2003 only - the Glamis had silver plastic with awesome orange accents. It was the same as the Speed but with softer shock settings, ITP Sand Skate paddles, and a flag with a pigtail to light it up even. Most of the Glamis models had many of the updates as they were some of the last Cannondales produced.

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#5 Post by Exodus »

Nice write up, pretty well put it all in a nut shell.

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#6 Post by speed2424 »

WELL WRITTEN!!:clap: :clap:

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#7 Post by Mjollnir »

I just pasted it. Props to our old friend Thomez, he wrote that one. :clap:

Marc

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#8 Post by Derno24 »

Couple things that were missed. Speed, Blaze, and Moto came with a gripper seat. Also the Blaze and Moto came with a stainless steel braided rear brake line where the speed and Cannibal didn't. The Speed came with Tag x-5 bars non fatty and the Blaze and Moto came with Tag T-2's.

One last thing that may or may not be true is the LE model. The one I got didn't have tag bars. Also the suspension changed too. I honestly think the factory wanted it that way, but the dealers made changes on their own. As everyone that I have seen is different.

Thomez's post covers most of it I just filled in the gaps.

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#9 Post by bowhunter74 »

My LE came with the Fox rear and Arvins.

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#10 Post by jacobw »

derno the speed I saw in a dealership had tag t2 bars and yellow grip and it came like that from the factory it was an 03 so i dont know if that makes a difference:)

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