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Safe to Try Maps?

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 10:46 pm
by KRMit
From what I understand different mappings affect your timing curve and fuel/air ratio. So is there a possibility that different maps can affect reliability? I want it to run hard and fast but to me, reliability is #1.

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 1:23 am
by cannondale27
Stick with factory quad maps or combos of factory maps if reliability worries you.

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 2:47 am
by cdalemx301
People Claim maps with the 11500 limit cause motor damage or maps like the x440s/speed cause it but i think that is a load of crap....It has nothin to do with the Rev limit it has to do with how long you run on the rev limiter for...I have run that map for a long time with no problems

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 4:18 am
by KRMit
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Originally posted by ******
the x440s/sped is a factory setting map I just took the factory maps and spliced them together.

There is no proof that a map can damage the motor as some people claim. you cannot bend a valve or trash a piston from mapping it can only be damaged from improper fuel injector settings( Injector offset or Injector flow)  or poor maintenance.

That raises another question I had. Any tips on those two settings? Mine cuts out at 1/8 throttle and I think it may be a little too lean, but don't know what to change.

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 6:00 am
by wistech
Do a throttle cal and try a blaze/speed map. Its a little smoother on the low end. Make sure your tps gives smooth readings and there are no trouble codes. I have tried some custom maps which will make a stocker absolutly rip but Im positive the engine life will be drastically shortened. I feel better with my engine mods that can make power so the high rev limit is no longer needed.

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 2:09 pm
by KRMit
The x440/speed map gives the most overall power right? Will that one shorten engine life any more than a blaze, moto, or speed map alone will?

who knows

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 5:12 am
by azcannon
I have tried to learn as much as I could about maps and everything else with these cannondales , and I am running a moto/speed map with the 10900 rev limit in my quad . Tons of power !! maybe not the zippiest , but I don't ride the quad as fast as the motor will run.
I ran a hybrid map on a newly rebuilt bike motor and floated my valves and caused some damage , I take the blame for that because I didn't change or do anything to the valve springs , had to start all over, that motor is getting kibblewhite valves and springs and using the same map , it was fast . I am going to raise the rev limit to 12000 even or 12500 when i get someone to make it for me ( have the new z400 bearing and everything else in that motor)

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 12:40 pm
by 311racer
Is the xmx map a hybrid map. Will it cause any damage to my motor. I've been using to map for 2 years now. This map is killer, it will rip your arms from your body ! smile.gif

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 6:07 pm
by J. Delaney
QUOTE
Originally posted by ******
the x440s/sped is a factory setting map I just took the factory maps and spliced them together.

There is no proof that a map can damage the motor as some people claim. you cannot bend a valve or trash a piston from mapping it can only be damaged from improper fuel injector settings( Injector offset or Injector flow)  or poor maintenance.



So what happens when some yayhoo advances the timing a little too much?

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 9:45 pm
by KRMit
My main concern is the x440/speed map. It blows away the Blaze map I had in it. I believe I'll be happy with it as long as it doesn't decrease my motor life.