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wistech
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#161 Post by wistech »

What do you think the reason is for the hole in the pin plug. Maybe to keep the slug buildup from getting past halfway? Guess who makes this setup?

comander420
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#162 Post by comander420 »

suzuki?

cannondale27
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#163 Post by cannondale27 »

Wow good eyes!Man that makes sense.Simple.Who makes it?
I am going to say Honda 400ex since it has thrust washers.

wistech
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#164 Post by wistech »

Its a 300ex rod. Notice they also use the same bearing design as the Suzuki but have washers.

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#165 Post by comander420 »

so is that going to be part of the next experiement? Any one, any one?

wistech
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#166 Post by wistech »

LOL No A honda rod wouldnt last 2 seconds in a dale. Those babies snap right off at the wrist pin.

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#167 Post by wistech »

While at Timbomooses shop he showed us some of the most horrific wear from the cages that Ive seen yet. One had easily .030" chewed through the outside race of the rod and what was left of the center was still going. Its a good thing the rods are strong enough not break when they sieze or we would have run out of cases a long time ago. He also had one and Ive seen it before was a rod that ground up the cage and bearings and was just running without anything inside. The piston smacks the head constantly but some still kept going and the owner couldnt hardly tell. If Tim gets a chance he wil post some cool pics.

wanablaze
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#168 Post by wanablaze »

Is that my motor you're talking about? ^^^

:drink:

wistech
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Indy show vindication.

#169 Post by wistech »

Talking with a few crank builders it was interesting to find that the ripsaw bearing is not a cannondale only issue. There were some street bikes that also had this problem. I guess the general term used by most is just called step wear. And wouldnt you know it thier fix was to just replace the bearing with similar one and accept premature failure or use a flat style cage that didnt rub on the rod. Hmmm .....Duh.

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#170 Post by cannondale27 »

Also noticed the early Falicon GSXR crank is actually a two piece design just like our cranks with pin part of the web and a solid rod.No babbit bearing like later models.Just the dreaded ripsaw which steps the rod.At least there isnt a big undercut like stock cranks for the cage to **** even more.

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