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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:20 pm
by alexw1991
Do 400ex a-arms fit a dale?

I'm looking at Houser +2 +1 and don't want to buy and they don't fit.


Thanks for the help.

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 7:28 pm
by peterock
They fit but should be caster/camber adjustable otherwise you can't adjust the front end correctly. You may need cone adapters as well to fit our spindles.

I have a set of Houser and TCS shocks I'm looking to part with.

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 9:25 pm
by claas900
Are the Honda arms the same when it comes to with and plus forward measurement? I mean is plus 2 the same for both bikes? And plus forward the same also?

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 11:14 pm
by jesshamner
I believe they are pretty much the same. I think the 250r arms should be +1 forward. Of course that depends on the year of the 250r arms.

And to 2003cannondale, if they 400ex arms aren't camber adjustable, you will need to run the 400ex spindles. You can use the entire 400ex front end.

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 2:34 am
by 2000ex
Even when using the entire front end it is not correct. The tierods will bind against the frame unless you grind down the frame. I would not recommend it...just because it bolts up does not mean it works correctly.

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 3:53 am
by jesshamner
Did you mount the whole front end on? I haven't actually tried it yet. All my info is based on research from this website and cannondaler. I have read that the tierods will hit if you only use the 400ex shocks. But I haven't read anything about them hitting while using the entire front end. I stand corrected if that is the case.

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 7:59 am
by 2000ex
It was the entire front end from spindles to hubs, calipers, etc. I picked up a machine that had a houser +2 front end with that setup and the tierods would hit the frame under compression. It is not unlike the early style cannondale stems which do the same.

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 2:39 pm
by jesshamner
My brain isn't functioning completely right now so this may be a stupid question but... Do you think the length of the arms has an effect on the tierods? So they're hitting the upper frame rail at full compression? Are the houser +2 mounting points exactly the same as the stock honda width mounting points?

Don't take this the wrong way. I'm not questioning your experience. I'm trying to find a solution.

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 5:22 pm
by 2000ex
It is the spindles that would cause it not the length of the arms. I would think the 400ex Houser arms are the same as the stock honda since they are designed for that machine.

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 6:00 pm
by duke416ex
Could it be the compressed length of the shock is wrong allowing the arms to travel to far up?