450 kit????

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cdaleman440
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450 kit????

#1 Post by cdaleman440 »

does the new atk 450 kit provide more power and less reliabilty?
My motor man is putting a 450 kit in do to older piston broke apart and wiped my new crank. also how is the z 400 crank that every one is doing? thanks

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Re: 450 kit????

#2 Post by Cannondale88 »

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Originally posted by cdaleman440
does the new atk 450 kit provide more power and less reliabilty?
My motor man is putting a 450 kit in do to older piston broke apart and wiped my new crank. also how is the z 400 crank that every one is doing?  thanks



Im not sure about the 450 kit, but its not a z400 crank, its a z400 bearing....you can get them from Brad at Blackwidow ATV..The whole crank with the z400 bearing from Brad

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#3 Post by cdaleman440 »

thats what i ment with the bearing my motor man randy brandit is doing it all for me and i was just wandering

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#4 Post by kdeal »

The z400 crank bearing has been holding up real well, with no premature failures reported so far. It is at the top of the list when rebuilding a motor.

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#5 Post by Sandstorm »

I have 150hrs of torture on my 450 piston. New rings at the 100hr mark while I was having the Z400 bearing put in.. It didn't need new rings ,but I put them in anyway..

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#6 Post by cdaleman440 »

can you feel a great increase of power or torque ?
thanks

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#7 Post by azcannon »

I don't think you can feel any difference except maybe when its really warm and you gas it mid throttle oher than that its virtually unnoticeable, see if you can compare the stock size to the 450 , you are going from 95 to 97 mm, not very much

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#8 Post by Sandstorm »

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Originally posted by cdaleman440
can you feel a great increase of power or torque ?
thanks


Look at my dyno numbers of my 450. You do the comparison..

http://www.cannondaleriders.com/vbb/showth...&highlight=dyno

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#9 Post by kdeal »

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Originally posted by azcannon
I don't think you can feel any difference except maybe when its really warm and you gas it mid throttle oher than that its virtually unnoticeable, see if you can compare the stock size to the 450 , you are going from 95 to 97 mm, not very much


I disagree, there is definitely a noticable difference. It may only be 5 hp but it is definitely a mod that you can feel. A lot of things weigh into this, there could be more compression on one of the two pistons, lighter weight, etc. Plus there are several different vendors and versions of the 97mm piston kit.

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#10 Post by jesshamner »

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Originally posted by kdeal
I disagree, there is definitely a noticable difference. It may only be 5 hp but it is definitely a mod that you can feel. A lot of things weigh into this, there could be more compression on one of the two pistons, lighter weight, etc. Plus there are several different vendors and versions of the 97mm piston kit.



I agree with kdeal. I have a stock cannibal. When in glamis, I was on a stock speed w/hmf there. Then I took Armok's ATK for a ride. It felt quite a bit faster than the stock speed or my cannibal.

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