balancing the crank

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haydug · #1 Post by **haydug** » Tue Sep 02, 2003 8:46 pm

I have had several inquiries about balancing the crankshafts in the 03 cannondales. Is this performed in your reliability kit? Can you list your kits/prices for the members here, and explain what each involves.
I know after talking with you, you convinced me, and to any member out there, they do know what they are doing. I would recommend them to anyone wanting a dale. I would buy a stage 8 kit and send the motor to SBM for the reliability kit, then ride for years to come and SPANK the new yamaha's and honda's.

southbaymoto · #2 Post by **southbaymoto** » Thu Sep 04, 2003 12:47 pm

Our kits vary in price and power, however they all carry the dependability enhancements listed in the DE1 (dependability kit). Please see below for a breakdown of the items/ services included in our kits.

ENGINE KITS:

DE1: Retail cost $1172***
* Decarbon Head
* Complete Inspection For Worn, Cracked Or Broken Engine Components
* Engine Mount Case Crack Prevention Update
* Throttle Shaft Calibration
* Rering (Gapless Ring Set)
* Adjust Valve Lash
* Cylinder Leak down Analysis
* Injector Flow And Polish
* Reengineer Head For Better Lubrication To The Valve Train
* Crank Plate Durability Enhancement
* Transmission Plate Durability Enhancement
* Machine Tune Defects In Transmission Gear Set
* Modify Shift Selector (ease shifting into neutral)
* Updated Torque Specifications
* Engine Gasket Kit
* Complete Engine Debur
* Inspect Crank Shaft For Trueness

Stage I: Retail cost $2086***
* Perpetual Flow Head Modifications
* Cam Timing Modifications
* Increased Compression
* Custom Map Ver. 1.1

Stage II: Retail cost $2466***
* Perpetual Flow Head Modifications
* Reangled Injector Bungs
* Cam Timing Modifications
* Increased Compression
* Custom Map Ver. 1.2

Stage III: Retail cost $3386***
* Perpetual Flow Head Modifications
* Reangled Injector Bungs
* Titanium Valves
* Beryllium Alloy Valve Seats
* Shimming Springs For Proper Valve Seat Pressure
* Cam Timing Modifications
* Increased Compression
* Custom Map Ver. 1.3

Comp IV: Retail cost $3916***
* Perpetual Flow Head Modifications
* Cast Sleeve, Custom Honed To Tolerance
* 450cc High Compression Big Bore Kit
* Shimming Springs For Proper Valve Seat Pressure
* Pressure Test Injectors
* Reangled Injector Bungs
* Light Weight Piston (reduced Vibration)
* Light Weight Wrist Pin
* Gapless Ring Set
* Titanium Valves
* Beryllium Alloy Valve Seats
* Cam Timing Modifications
* Custom Map Ver. 1.4

The "Monster": Retail cost $4282***
* Perpetual Flow Head Modifications
* Cast Sleeve, Custom Honed To Tolerance
* 460cc High Compression Big Bore Kit
* Pressure Test Injectors
* Reangled Injector Bungs
* Transmission Gear Ratio Modification
* Light Weight Piston (reduced Vibration)
* Shimming Springs For Proper Valve Seat Pressure
* Light Weight Wrist Pin
* Gapless Ring Set
* Titanium Valves
* Beryllium Alloy Valve Seats
* Cam Timing Modifications
* Custom Map Ver. 1.5

ADDITIONAL ITEMS AND "DO IT YOUR SELF"

Piston Kit (OEM Bore Size): Retail cost $395
* Lightweight
* Reduced compression increases dependability
* Quicker rev increases acceleration
* Reduces vibration
* 11.8 to 1 compression ratio
* Retains stock bore size
* Ready to bolt on
* Includes: light weight piston, wristpin, cast sleeve, circlips, and ring set**

Perpetual Flow Head Mods.: Retail cost $995
* Ads instant horsepower
* Includes cam timing performance enhancement
* Hand Lapped
* "Do it your self solution"
* Better lubrication to the valve train
* Ready to bolt on
* Custom Injection Map provided Ver. 1.1
* Race Proven

Crank Balancing (later models): Retail cost $99.95

Transmission Gear Ratio Modification: Retail cost $465.95

QT Package (noise reduction): Retail cost $99.95
* Modify Engine Tolerances
* Modify Clutch Basket

Case Repair: Retail cost $495.95

Thread Repair: Retail cost $36 each

Bering R&R: Retail cost $36 plus parts

Flow Test And Polished: Retail cost $49.95

Perpetual Flow Suspension Revalving: Retail cost $600.00

**Gaskets not included (for gaskets contact www.cdaleparts.com)

***All engines shipped disassembled or in a non-operational state will be charged an additional $144 for inspection and damage estimate. All kits do not include any parts not listed in the description, all additional parts will be charged separately.

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I will be having our website updated with the above information and an FAQ section added. Please feel free to contact me if you any questions, concerns or comments. We can be reached by email at info@southbaymoto.com, via the web at www.southbaymoto.com or by phone at 310-784-7690 under the Cannondale R&D option #3. Customer support is available Tuesday through Saturday from 9:00 am to 6:00 pm PST. Our shipping address is:

South Bay Moto
2101 Pacific Coast Highway
Lomita, CA 90717

Be sure to include the following when shipping your engine:

1. Engine, well packaged and padded to prevent shipping damage (86 lbs.)
2. Bottom cradle, or frame rail
3. Injector set sealed in an airtight bag to prevent contamination
4. ECU, again package well to prevent damage in transit
5. Throttle Body
6. Complete contact and return shipping information

Allow 4 to 6 weeks for turn around time. We thank you for your business.

Dustin
SBM

thomez · #3 Post by **thomez** » Thu Sep 04, 2003 12:55 pm

Is it me or did the prices just go up quite a bit? I looked just yesterday and I think the Stage IV was about a thousand dollars cheaper. :confused:

Ryanstones · #4 Post by **Ryanstones** » Thu Sep 04, 2003 1:54 pm

Thank you for putting it all together for us here. Makes me want to buy another quad!

haydug · #5 Post by **haydug** » Thu Sep 04, 2003 2:45 pm

Thanks Dustin for taking the time and posting this for the members to see. I think this will answer alot of queastions for them.

saleen_1 · #6 Post by **saleen_1** » Thu Sep 04, 2003 3:19 pm

#1 IN MY BOOK.GO SBM.THANKS GREAT JOB.

J. Delaney · #7 Post by **J. Delaney** » Thu Sep 04, 2003 5:10 pm

How much hp does the "perpetual head" modification add??

southbaymoto · #8 Post by **southbaymoto** » Thu Sep 04, 2003 7:01 pm

QUOTE

Originally posted by J. Delaney
How much hp does the "perpetual head" modification add??

Aprox 8 - 10 depending on the dyno

claas900 · #9 Post by **claas900** » Thu Sep 04, 2003 7:24 pm

..Yea thomez I think the prices did go up?? I thought it was Ridicious before,but this is just RAPE!!..Ill sale my dale b4 i spend that..With what most of us paided for theses bikes last year,and another 4k on top of that in the motor,we all could have a sick ex,z or god for bid yfz...and be just as fast and just as dependable..IMO....The only other place i can think of with Rape prices is Sparks,and we all know his stuff just about waxs everything..well more worth it...IMO

cannondale27 · #10 Post by **cannondale27** » Thu Sep 04, 2003 9:32 pm

claas that really wasnt necessary was it?We all asked for this listing and he came through with it.Now is when we all have to decide if we are going to take a chance and leave as is,pay Southbay to do some or all their mods or figure out how to do them ourself.One thing I believe is that at one time or another they saw or were informed about everyproblem they have addresed so at least we cant say we werent warned.I believe everything they have listed would be an improvement to our motors I bet if he showed the hours involved I bet the prices arent out of line with all the machining involved.Also one big problem with developing mods is eventually others will copy them.Southbay took the initiative and someone else will make money off their ideas.It happens all the time.And will cost them.However I sure would like some pictures and desciptions so I could copy it.Just Kidding:D

Thanks Dustin :clap:

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balancing the crank

balancing the crank

Awesome info Dustin!