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Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 9:16 am
by cannondale27
I got this motor in to fix up and make it rip.Really a odd combo of parts.Major issue with it was a cracked sleeve and toasted cambearing.Looks like it was also left outside with valvecover and sidecover off.Crazy people!Not sure whether it was leaking liner or rain that got water and therefore rust in the oil but still should be salvagable.Will post a bunch of pics and see who can list the most oddball parts like as in 03part and 01,02 part etc. and damaged parts see what you think is all wrong.One who lists most odd parts and problems wins a Cannondaleriders calender.
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 11:48 am
by dalewannbe
I see early cam cover with cam sensor
03 crank
It has the stud update
early metal gears
early oil drain plug
It lookes like the 03 crank had been balanced by the factory
has the stator wire update
8 disc clutch pack
rod and pin look good
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 1:50 pm
by 383astro
Thats a lot of pics.
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 5:17 pm
by cannondale27
Good start Dalewannabe.Lot more there to see though.Come on guys go for it!Canniboomer ready for a nice size order?
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 7:10 pm
by kdeal
Good thing you don't take photos for a living....
Why does it look like someone put cam bearing retaining rings on the upper & lower of the cap?
FX400 cams (hard to see the cam sensor tang or not?) But at least early 02 cams
Needs a heck of a port realignment job
Missing oil bridge retaining ring (funny, it's on in the next pic...LOL)
Metal oil pump gears (01-02)
Timing chain needs a trash bin to keep it in
Possibly out of time on the cams???
Early model oil pump due to the exposed snap rings to the check balls
Billet timing chain guide spacer
8-disc clutch (someone changed the clutch before frying motor with new style)
2003 Crank Plate Stud Kit
Aluminum Engine side cover (Early 02 & 01)
Torx bolts on clutch cover
Early FX / MX Factory aluminum valve cover with cam sensor
Torx bolts on Water outlet cover
Late model crank in early model case
Late 02 stator (not update)
Oil bridge looks funky but pic sucks, looks like a different seal on top side of bridge???
SS Factory Oil filter with individual quad rings
2 shims on outside of cam idler gear instead of one, and a washer under the outer retaining bolt..oops
Slightly trashed liner w/ ASSO piston
Piston rings siezed on piston...
Looks like the oil pump pin sheared on the counter balancer
Countershaft bearing will need some oil to ever turn again....lol
One way bearing and inner counter balancer hub look like sh!t!
Nice oblong shaped hole on the scavenge pump cover outlet
Needs oil vent line update (motor out of a quad, probably FX400 or early 01-02 Cannibal)
Nice pile of poop in the head oil drain back hole, looks metallic
Aluminum valve spring retainers
Hurry up and rebuild that poor girl she was abused.
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 7:27 pm
by cannondale27
Not a photographer for sure.Kdeal want me to critique your list?
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 7:38 pm
by cannondale27
Good thing you don't take photos for a living....
Why does it look like someone put cam bearing retaining rings on the upper & lower of the cap? NOPE
FX400 cams (hard to see the cam sensor tang or not?) But at least early 02 cams
Needs a heck of a port realignment job Poor pic angle but wow huh
Missing oil bridge retaining ring (funny, it's on in the next pic...LOL) NOPE look again
Metal oil pump gears (01-02)
Timing chain needs a trash bin to keep it in 3clicks
Possibly out of time on the cams???
Early model oil pump due to the exposed snap rings to the check balls
Billet timing chain guide spacer
8-disc clutch (someone changed the clutch before frying motor with new style) MORE THERE
2003 Crank Plate Stud Kit
Aluminum Engine side cover (Early 02 & 01)
Torx bolts on clutch cover
Early FX / MX Factory aluminum valve cover with cam sensor AND
Torx bolts on Water outlet cover MORE
Late model crank in early model case
Late 02 stator (not update) MORE (is updated)
Oil bridge looks funky but pic sucks, looks like a different seal on top side of bridge??? CLOSER
SS Factory Oil filter with individual quad rings LOL NO
2 shims on outside of cam idler gear instead of one, and a washer under the outer retaining bolt..oops
Slightly trashed liner w/ ASSO piston
Piston rings siezed on piston...
Looks like the oil pump pin sheared on the counter balancer NO ALL PINS INTACT
Countershaft bearing will need some oil to ever turn again....lol
One way bearing and inner counter balancer hub look like sh!t!
Nice oblong shaped hole on the scavenge pump cover outlet
Needs oil vent line update (motor out of a quad, probably FX400 or early 01-02 Cannibal)
Nice pile of poop in the head oil drain back hole, looks metallic MORE WHERE FROM?
Aluminum valve spring retainers
Hurry up and rebuild that poor girl she was abused.
So far this is winner great job Kdeal but come on guys there is lot more.I know my camera skills stink but those calenders are real nice!
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 10:03 pm
by claas900
.. I saw most things Kdeal saw. let me add to his list on what else i saw ...if its a dubble sorry.
Cam caps old sytle,& cam bolt lose
Head is threaded for head mount to frame
crank locking bolt is the right one,03 used an allen bolt.
Im not sure but crank looks like old crank with new 03 rod?
Blue cam seals,03 were blk
Cam chain buffer mount is alummin(sp)
Cam sensor on valve cover.
no bleader on water neck
oil filter is 03,paper nnice BTW LOL
case looks of differnt casting?? looks smoth?
Assco piston?
Why is the clutch adj so far out?
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 10:30 pm
by kdeal
So far this is winner great job Kdeal but come on guys there is lot more.I know my camera skills stink but those calenders are real nice!
OK, the picture of the cam cap was wierd, I see the loose bolt now. I guess the pile of pooh is the decomp?? Is that what you are trying to communicate in the cam cover pic? Looks like the inner snap ring is missing on the oil bridge to hold the timing chain guide on. No drain plug in the water outlet.....The oil filter threw me because of the ton of crap on it and the o-ring in the distance kind of look like a quad ring. Is this a hydro case?
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 11:42 pm
by jwheat
The exhaust ports looked like they've been opened up, but the intake side doesn't look like it's been touched.