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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 1:59 am
by m_mcgranahan
Hi,

I think I might have miss timed my cams and I was wondering if anyone has a pic of the correct timing mark alighment? I am running motocross and want good lowend to midrange power.

Thanks

God bless...

Mark

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:47 am
by Easy E
Engine service manual available to download here:

http://www.cannondaler.com/manuals.php

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 3:25 pm
by cannondale27
Here you go.From the manual.TDC bolt engaged with crank.Important thing is to count the teeth on idler to the marks on cam gears.No matter where you set the cam timing the tooth count ALWAYS will be the same.The Pin locations indicated in white are to be ignored and cams degreed in or use the stock positions.
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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:01 pm
by peterock
Steve,

Wasn't the picture of the exhaust cam wrong? Intake cam at the 1 and 7 o'clock position and the Exhaust cam at 11 and 4 from the cam lobe?

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 11:38 pm
by Nickc711
QUOTE (peterock @ Nov 4 2007, 05:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Steve,

Wasn't the picture of the exhaust cam wrong? Intake cam at the 1 and 7 o'clock position and the Exhaust cam at 11 and 4 from the cam lobe?



can someone verify this?

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 12:10 am
by cannondale27
The pin locations should be ignored or run stock positions if not degreeing.Everything else including tooth count is correct.

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 2:56 am
by Easy E
QUOTE (cannondale27 @ Nov 5 2007, 12:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The pin locations should be ignored or run stock positions if not degreeing.Everything else including tooth count is correct.


C27 is absolutely right. I've seen cams come through that although pin settings were correct per the manual, the degree wheel told a different story (example: actual degree on an intake came was 98 vs recommended 106 +/- 2 degrees). Your best bet is to always degree your cams to verify they are correct - otherwise you could spend plenty of time and $$ rebuilding a motor just to suffer poor performance due to bad cam timing.

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 5:57 am
by m_mcgranahan
Hi Everyone,

Thanks for the help. is any one looking ot sell a degree wheel at a great price?
Where do I get the info on how to Deg the cams?

Thanks

God bless...

mark

Ps. I am pretty sure that the cams are off because I am running a 96.5 piston, ported head and big gun exhaust and I can't go below 2610 injector flow rate w/o running rich, so I'm pretty sure the motor is not breathing right.




QUOTE (Easy E @ Nov 5 2007, 02:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
C27 is absolutely right. I've seen cams come through that although pin settings were correct per the manual, the degree wheel told a different story (example: actual degree on an intake came was 98 vs recommended 106 +/- 2 degrees). Your best bet is to always degree your cams to verify they are correct - otherwise you could spend plenty of time and $$ rebuilding a motor just to suffer poor performance due to bad cam timing.


Hi

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 3:30 pm
by rayspeed
I have one you can use...
Ray