Shock valving

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thomez · #1 Post by **thomez** » Sat Apr 10, 2004 9:14 pm

Alright, on a quest for a set of used 16" shocks for XC. Now the question...

Finding used 'Dale shocks is quite hard to do. Will the valving be correct or close if I find a set of shocks setup for an EX or an R ? If they are close, which way will they be off - like ... will an EX shock setup for the same weight as a 'Dale shock be stiffer, or softer? The same for the R shocks?

Or... will buying new ones be the only way they work correctly?

Who has interchanged them and with what results?

Thanks for any info.

Edit: I forgot to mention, I will be using these on the Houser +1 arms - so I am guessing I need them a little stiffer than stock width. I appreciate any input - thanks.

CdaleRacer0128 · #2 Post by **CdaleRacer0128** » Sat Apr 10, 2004 9:59 pm

what's wrong wit the blaze shocks? get them reworked by tqs

thomez · #3 Post by **thomez** » Sat Apr 10, 2004 10:02 pm

Sold them

EuroGOD · #4 Post by **EuroGOD** » Sat Apr 10, 2004 10:13 pm

Doesn't hannibalhascannibal have some Elkas?
Someone else was enquiring about the a-arms so you may be able to stike a deal.:deal:

thomez · #5 Post by **thomez** » Sat Apr 10, 2004 10:20 pm

I think hannible is looking for some Ohlins, actually.

aroracer has some Elkas but they aren't setup for me at all.

I was on EXriders looking at a couple different sets of PEP that are valved very close to what I'm looking for, but are just for different machines. I was trying to figure out what the difference would be....

Thanks to all answers...

JeffQuadShop · #6 Post by **JeffQuadShop** » Mon Apr 12, 2004 4:13 pm

The problem isn't the valving, its the shaft and body lenght that will be wrong.

Psychosis · #7 Post by **Psychosis** » Mon Apr 12, 2004 7:23 pm

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Originally posted by Jeff@QuadShop
The problem isn't the valving, its the shaft and body lenght that will be wrong.

What's wrong about them? A friend of mine wanted to see if there was any difference so we put them side by side before I ever installed my Blaze's. Both were dual rate 16" but his were for an EX and were Works. They were same in everything I could tell including shaft length unless they were like a mm off.

JeffQuadShop · #8 Post by **JeffQuadShop** » Mon Apr 12, 2004 7:57 pm

I don't know the exact dementions but the stroke is wrong. They will work but they won't work correctly

thomez · #9 Post by **thomez** » Mon Apr 12, 2004 8:23 pm

Jeff can you enlighten me as to what 'stroke' is? Please only in terms applicable to ATV's

I thought our geometry was almost identical to that of an R or an EX...

JeffQuadShop · #10 Post by **JeffQuadShop** » Mon Apr 12, 2004 9:16 pm

Ok,

Honda with compression and rebound for example has 5.25" of stroke
Cannondale with compression and rebound has 4.8" of stroke.

If you put the Honda shocks on a Cannondale, the tierods will hit. The only thing that you can safely do is to get some travel limiters which I believe Elka offers.

hope this helps,